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#1 2008-09-22 04:19:03

byron
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MoinMoin is not built to scale up to very large wikis (>>10,000 pages)

I'm a software engineer, and I come from Taiwan.

Recently my supervisor orders me to survey the wiki software.

The purpose is to build a KM system.

I prefer the MoinMoin, but there is a main flaw about the MoinMoin is not built to scale up to very large wikis (>>10,000 pages).

Is that true?

Is it because the data storage format(files)?

What happen if wiki pages are more then 10,000 pages?

Will it possible to fix this flaw in the future?

My company will create a lot of pages more than 10,000 pages,is it suitable for my company?

please give me a suggestion?

Thank you very much.

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#2 2008-09-22 20:50:20

cjtannu
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Registered: 2006-10-18
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Re: MoinMoin is not built to scale up to very large wikis (>>10,000 pages)

byron,

  I encourage you to take a look at MindTouch Deki.  It scales very well.  In fact it was chosen by Mozilla to power its Developer community because of this fact: http://developer.mozilla.org/En

You can download MindTouch Deki here: http://wiki.mindtouch.com/Download

If you have any questions about our software please feel free to contact us here: http://wiki.mindtouch.com/support


Corey Ganser
Customer Support Manager
MindTouch

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#3 2008-09-24 20:21:25

ThomasWaldmann
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Re: MoinMoin is not built to scale up to very large wikis (>>10,000 pages)

Moin uses the filesystem to store pages.

For scalability this means that it is as scalable as your filesystem is.

Be careful with general assumptions about scalability. Some people think that filesystem storage is bad and that a database solves all problems. You might find that this is not the whole truth. smile

Think of a filesystem as highly optimized database for name -> content lookups (and that is the usual thing a wiki does).

For the people wanting database storage for moin, there is good news: we had a successful storage backend api project in Summer of Code 2008, so it will be soon rather easy to write a database backend for moin.

Don't hold your breath though, the big changes will take a while until they are integrated (expected next year). Also, there is no SQL storage backend yet (feel invited if you are good in SQL and Python and you want to write one).


Thomas Waldmann

http://moinmo.in/

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#4 2008-09-26 02:17:43

SamePageTeam
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From: California
Registered: 2007-02-07
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Re: MoinMoin is not built to scale up to very large wikis (>>10,000 pages)

Hello Byron,

I would encourage you to trial the on-premise version of our solution from http://downloads.etouch.net. SamePage is a very scalable Wiki, can cluster around nodes and can support tons of users.

Further, our team is willing and able to work with you to create and customize a solution that fits your needs.

Thanks,

SP Team


Disclaimer: I am representing SamePage on this Forum

http://www.etouch.net
http://samepage.spwiki.com

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